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[WightHorse]

So, i just came across a lawsuit against blockbuster. About the managers.
well about paying over time... so here are something about BlockBuster and over time.
store managers must have about 44 45 hours. But only get paid for 40.
if any employee goes over 40 hours they get written up. And maybe fired (well fired after so long)
4 star csr. This is below manager but above CSR. This means you can do the manager work. all the stuff they do. open the store or whatever. And make less. And also cover a shift if someone calls off. (csr or manager)
The cheap part about that is.. say its you and another manager. Well you are being a "CSR" even though you might being doing stuff only a manager can. you get whatever you made as a CSR. You only get the extra when you open or close as a "manager" so your pay check will say something like...
wage:7.20 Hour. well then under it it will say .50 hour for how ever many hours you worked as a "manager" pretty cheap company...

[zooworker]

So, i just came across a lawsuit against blockbuster. About the managers.
well about paying over time... so here are something about BlockBuster and over time.
store managers must have about 44 45 hours. But only get paid for 40.
if any employee goes over 40 hours they get written up. And maybe fired (well fired after so long)
4 star csr. This is below manager but above CSR. This means you can do the manager work. all the stuff they do. open the store or whatever. And make less. And also cover a shift if someone calls off. (csr or manager)
The cheap part about that is.. say its you and another manager. Well you are being a "CSR" even though you might being doing stuff only a manager can. you get whatever you made as a CSR. You only get the extra when you open or close as a "manager" so your pay check will say something like...
wage:7.20 Hour. well then under it it will say .50 hour for how ever many hours you worked as a "manager" pretty cheap company...
So your saying if I work over 40hrs I get wrote up?
Doesn't make sense, and as far as a lawsuit.Please produce evidence to this fact.
Also as a manager you are required to do every thing, so if I ask the csr to take out the trash,does he needs to get paid more, just because a manger does it to?

[WightHorse]

If you hit "overtime" then you get wrote up. and as far as the trash thing. I'm talking about manager "passwords" things that only they can do. But im not sure i understand what you're asking. and here is this..
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_July_21/ai_n6116364

[DavidNewlySL]

If you hit "overtime" then you get wrote up. and as far as the trash thing. I'm talking about manager "passwords" things that only they can do. But im not sure i understand what you're asking. and here is this..
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_July_21/ai_n6116364

you stupid noob...that was from 4 years ago...where do they find u...

[zooworker]

you stupid noob...that was from 4 years ago...where do they find u...

If you hit "overtime" then you get wrote up. and as far as the trash thing. I'm talking about manager "passwords" things that only they can do. But im not sure i understand what you're asking. and here is this..
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_July_21/ai_n6116364
Thanks for the link..but I'll go with David on this one....
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[WightHorse]

Doesnt matter. it's true. I work at Blockbuster. Just telling you how it is.

[Thenigerian]

Jeez! Making us noobs look bad!

[WightHorse]

and david...nice roseanne quote....Where do they find you?

[zooworker]

Jeez! Making us noobs look bad!

Nah...Not all...;)

[WightHorse]

plus i didnt really say HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS NEW THING ABOUT BLOCKBUSTER! i said i came across it.

[zooworker]

plus i didnt really say HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS NEW THING ABOUT BLOCKBUSTER! i said i came across it.
A thread about something that happened 4 years ago is not a way to start a new thread.

[Antithesys]

"wrote up"?

[Thenigerian]

"wrote up"?

Yeah, like "been broughten" and "this DVD don't work."

[sar94pga]

So, i just came across a lawsuit against blockbuster. About the managers.
well about paying over time... so here are something about BlockBuster and over time.
store managers must have about 44 45 hours. But only get paid for 40.
if any employee goes over 40 hours they get written up. And maybe fired (well fired after so long)
4 star csr. This is below manager but above CSR. This means you can do the manager work. all the stuff they do. open the store or whatever. And make less. And also cover a shift if someone calls off. (csr or manager)
The cheap part about that is.. say its you and another manager. Well you are being a "CSR" even though you might being doing stuff only a manager can. you get whatever you made as a CSR. You only get the extra when you open or close as a "manager" so your pay check will say something like...
wage:7.20 Hour. well then under it it will say .50 hour for how ever many hours you worked as a "manager" pretty cheap company...

you don't make less as a 4 star. you make more than a csr, but less than a SL.
you get the 50 cents regardless of what shift you work. if you are working a regular csr shift you get the 50 cents. if you are running a shift you get the 50 cents.

idiots.....if you don't know the policy and the job description, don't quote it.

[justanotherworker]

plus i didnt really say HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS NEW THING ABOUT BLOCKBUSTER! i said i came across it.
doesnt really matter. SM are technically on salary, they are not hourly employees. And corporate wants them there 45 hours a week... so what? They also get huge bonuses when the tnr is up for the store. also, not to mention the what... 4 weeks vacation?
As far as CSR's , as long as DL aproves it, and at times they will because most noob's never stay long,(they don't actually like to work). So, yadda yadda yadda. What was your point again?

[The Omen]

doesnt really matter. SM are technically on salary, they are not hourly employees. And corporate wants them there 45 hours a week... so what? They also get huge bonuses when the tnr is up for the store. also, not to mention the what... 4 weeks vacation?
As far as CSR's , as long as DL aproves it, and at times they will because most noob's never stay long,(they don't actually like to work). So, yadda yadda yadda. What was your point again?

right SMs are salary, no technically, we just are. We need to be there to run the store and make things get done. We are not hourly, so demanding we are there 45 hours a week alludes to the fact that we are hourly. Every hour over 40 we work lowers our base pay. I will work my store 70 hours a week to make it run. I despise being told I have to work 45 hours. It makes me not want to work. We are constantly told we are merchants. This is a cop out. There is a line in a Metallica song that says "you can do it your own way, just as long as its how I say".

This way when the store fails, it is the managers fault even though we have nothing to do with a vast majority of store issues...

We don't get four weeks vacation. This has to be accrued same as anyone else.

Most CSRs worth anything do stay long, but if you are worth anything you wont stay a CSR long.

Huge bonuses? where am I for those? They have raised their expectations for store budget so high, that the BPM for the "best" store in my district was only like 96%.

I will put in the hours and push my crew, but we need more support from corprate than them just saying I want this done like this, but its your store, and you need to cut hours for today tomorrow and the rest of week.

[DavidNewlySL]

right SMs are salary, no technically, we just are. We need to be there to run the store and make things get done. We are not hourly, so demanding we are there 45 hours a week alludes to the fact that we are hourly. Every hour over 40 we work lowers our base pay. I will work my store 70 hours a week to make it run. I despise being told I have to work 45 hours. It makes me not want to work. We are constantly told we are merchants. This is a cop out. There is a line in a Metallica song that says "you can do it your own way, just as long as its how I say".

This way when the store fails, it is the managers fault even though we have nothing to do with a vast majority of store issues...

We don't get four weeks vacation. This has to be accrued same as anyone else.

Most CSRs worth anything do stay long, but if you are worth anything you wont stay a CSR long.

Huge bonuses? where am I for those? They have raised their expectations for store budget so high, that the BPM for the "best" store in my district was only like 96%.

I will put in the hours and push my crew, but we need more support from corprate than them just saying I want this done like this, but its your store, and you need to cut hours for today tomorrow and the rest of week.

I agree, he also has forgotten to mention that not only do we have to come in if no one shows up, we have monthly business meetings we must attend, which we are not reimbursed for, also most SM's work 45+, I haven't worked less than 55 in any given week. 4 weeks vacation, no sir, my dm's only let us take 1 week at a time, we cant even take 2 weeks in a row if we wanted to. Also 2 conference calls u must get on even if u are off, the DM visiting your store all the time. Big bonus??! you kidding me, most companies SM's get double, triple what we get. This is the only company that gives every employee a bonus for hours worked. Not to mention, are bonuses are averaged in working 45 hours, we dont get a dime past that, so u can work 65 hr weeks, and not get the extra bonus hour pay, so tell me who is screwed?

Someone on this forum needs to do the research, Store manager can be a very daunting task, and a lot of work, CSR's get paid the work they do for the most part. Run DVD's ring up customers, and do the basic duties, in fact most CSR's i know dont do enough for they pay they do get...including selling the bare minimum of their sales goals.

[johnlow71]

i like money!

[justanotherworker]

Ok, just for the record, Im not sure why all store managers may not have the same vacation time, just my last SM who was new to the company - got a minimum of 4 weeks accrued during her year. But you are right, she didnt get to take 2 weeks in a row, and of course the DM had to approve all time off.
But the "if I work over 45 hours my base pay goes down??? Not buying that one. My main job - which is a salary postition ( service technician) , I work above 45 hours. and at times, If I'm on a service call I cant just leave when it hits 5, I have to stay till my work is finished. What I don't get, is after my paycheck comes- I never look at how many hours I worked and calculate what my hourly pay was. I say "F" it, Im on salary.

Now, the countless hours a SM works, believe me I get it, Ive seen good store managers work alot. Some deligate alot of their work, but some work a thankless grueling schedule, and have to contend with alot of bull crap from smart mouthed college attending csr's.
But the job does have its perks too!

And some managers, depending on how they negotiated their salaries when they got hired, may make more than the hardest working managers. But thats life. If I had the chance to move up and change careers, Id do it in a heart beat. Because I think the positives outweigh the negatives at BB. But alas, my district doesn't promote from within. They outsource.

[sar94pga]

Ok, just for the record, Im not sure why all store managers may not have the same vacation time, just my last SM who was new to the company - got a minimum of 4 weeks accrued during her year. But you are right, she didnt get to take 2 weeks in a row, and of course the DM had to approve all time off.
But the "if I work over 45 hours my base pay goes down??? Not buying that one. My main job - which is a salary postition ( service technician) , I work above 45 hours. and at times, If I'm on a service call I cant just leave when it hits 5, I have to stay till my work is finished. What I don't get, is after my paycheck comes- I never look at how many hours I worked and calculate what my hourly pay was. I say "F" it, Im on salary.

Now, the countless hours a SM works, believe me I get it, Ive seen good store managers work alot. Some deligate alot of their work, but some work a thankless grueling schedule, and have to contend with alot of bull crap from smart mouthed college attending csr's.
But the job does have its perks too!

And some managers, depending on how they negotiated their salaries when they got hired, may make more than the hardest working managers. But thats life. If I had the chance to move up and change careers, Id do it in a heart beat. Because I think the positives outweigh the negatives at BB. But alas, my district doesn't promote from within. They outsource.

in order to get 4 weeks PTO as a SM, you must be with the company for 4 years. it is policy. its in the SOP. I just looked today to see how much time I have left to use. its earned via years of service.

as far as the over 45 hours is concerned. yeah, we get paid less the more hours we work. the base salary is for 45 hours. anything we work after that for the company is free. so if i work 55 hours, i don't get paid for that 10 extra hours. so essentially i make less.

and...we don't negotiate our salaries.
DM- congratulations. you have been promoted
Me- sweet
DM- you will be making this much a year. good luck
Me-........

ALSO. SM's bonus off a percent. and its based on a quarterly salary. everyone else is on hours worked.

[zooworker]

I get 26 pto days, as an ASM.............

[sar94pga]

cuz you have been with the company for years and years and years and years....

[The Omen]

But the "if I work over 45 hours my base pay goes down??? Not buying that one. My main job - which is a salary postition ( service technician) , I work above 45 hours. and at times, If I'm on a service call I cant just leave when it hits 5, I have to stay till my work is finished. What I don't get, is after my paycheck comes- I never look at how many hours I worked and calculate what my hourly pay was. I say "F" it, Im on salary.

not sure if you are doing it on purpose or not, but I will say it one more time.

I have no problem to work as many hours as it takes to get the job done. I resent the fact that they keep adding hours to the base hours. It may seem like only one or two here or there, but it matters. I have a life outside of work.

I work to live, I do not live to work.

[justanotherworker]

I have no problem to work as many hours as it takes to get the job done. I resent the fact that they keep adding hours to the base hours.



Nah, I totally agree with you on this point. Thats a major draw back with this position. Don't forget, I also said SM work tough grueling schedules. I get all that.

I would only disagree with anyone who wants to figure out their hourly wage on salary hours. Those are two different pay scales, along with responsibilities. And my thoughts are with any job, not just BB.

[turtletime]

Nah, I totally agree with you on this point. Thats a major draw back with this position. Don't forget, I also said SM work tough grueling schedules. I get all that.

I would only disagree with anyone who wants to figure out their hourly wage on salary hours. Those are two different pay scales, along with responsibilities. And my thoughts are with any job, not just BB.

it doesn't matter. if you are paid salary based on 45 hours and you get 1000 per week based on those 45 hours...your salary will decrease if you put in 60 hours. It has nothing to do with different pay scales. The salary wage is based on the number of hours anticipated to work.

Unless you are an overtime exempt employee, your hourly pay does need to be figured in to the number. And yes, I understand BBI SMs are OT exempt, but positions like, say, your position, I have a hard time believing you are overtime exempt as a service technician (and I'm talking by LAW, not by your employer's supposed "position", which is what most employers do, not realizing that some employees are smart enough to realize they are getting fucked over!) You of all people should pay attention to your overtime hours. Not being OT exempt, your company is required to pay you for your salary plus any time put in over 40 hours per week (or 8 hours per day, if that's how your state is set up). Just because you are salaried, you (non OT exempt) would still need to be paid for your OT.

I agree Omen. It is bullshit that you guys have to keep increasing the number of hours in the store without the pay to do it. That is one reason I would never take a salaried supervisory position. :D Thank god my line of work doesn't require me to do it! :D

[SL_600]

I've been salaried before with overtime being paid at 1/2 times my calculated salary based on 40 hrs. So you know what happened. I made sure that not a second was wasted being idle and I was up out of there at the end of 8 hours nearly every day. Granted that is not always possible at Blockbuster because it is a different kind of business.

My point is that I agree with those who say that their salary goes down with every hour of overtime they work. Try this! Take your base salary and figure out your hourly wage based on 40 hours per week. Now take that same base salary and figure out your hourly wage based on 55 hours per week. [note: or don't if you are easily angered]

[justanotherworker]

I've been salaried before with overtime being paid at 1/2 times my calculated salary based on 40 hrs. So you know what happened. I made sure that not a second was wasted being idle and I was up out of there at the end of 8 hours nearly every day. Granted that is not always possible at Blockbuster because it is a different kind of business.

My point is that I agree with those who say that their salary goes down with every hour of overtime they work. Try this! Take your base salary and figure out your hourly wage based on 40 hours per week. Now take that same base salary and figure out your hourly wage based on 55 hours per week. [note: or don't if you are easily angered]
I think I figured out my issues with this base pay and calculating thing. (since I seem to be the minority on this subject)

At my primary job where I am salary, On days I work at BB, my employers let me leave work early to get to BB on time. I asked them for this favor when I was offered a SL position, through the prodding of my sm at the time. Which my bosses said was fine with them. Since most of my shifts at BB started at 5, and I didnt leave the first job till 5, and at times, I can be 30 minutes away I leave at 4:30.

Now in my rare position, Im on salary, so they dont deduct my pay on those days when I leave for BB. So in these instances, I make out better being on salary. Cause if I was hourly, there is no way in hell Id leave a position that if you were to base it on hourly, I make more than half my hourly wage at BB.

But I do understand everything when I hear about base pay rate is lower when you work extra hours. IN my rare case, i dont have that problem. And to have an employer that lets their employee leave early to get to their 2nd job. I guess in part I am very fortunate. And in part - really god atmy job for them to allow it in the first place.

[SL_600]

Now in my rare position, Im on salary, so they dont deduct my pay on those days when I leave for BB. So in these instances, I make out better being on salary.
I was in this same situation. Sometimes when the work was slow, I would send my associates home and finish my reports. Then I would leave one, sometimes two hours early, but still got paid the same.