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Editorial on Illegal Immigration
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As much as I disagree with illegal immigration, when you live next to such a poor country it is inevitable. Help improve conditions in mexico and they will be less likely to take the risk of breaking into your "house".
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It makes total sense to me.
I dont mind monitored legal immigration, but illegals are getting out of hand. You guys think you have it bad with the mexicans, but we have half of europe trying to get into the UK, especially now europeans can move around Europe more freely thanks to the EU It was estimated in 2005 that we already have in excess of 1 million illegals and IMO, thats 1 million too many.
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Well the US has over 30 million illegals, mostly around the souther US and west coast in California. It's easy to say their country would be better off without them, but at the same time there are a lot of jobs that nobody else is willing to do.
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IMO, people arent willing to do them because the wages are so low. If there were NO imigrants at all in the country, eager to fill those positions at that low wage, employers would be forced to raise the wages to a decent level to get employees, and then nationals would be willing to do them.
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I don't believe that being born into a country means that you are exclusively entitled to the benefits of living there above any other, I think anyone from anywhere should be able to better their lives by migrating, if they wish (provided they are prepared to earn an honest living), and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. It seemed like the author of this letter was under the impression that the majority of immigrants were entering the country to sponge off the government (which is incredibly difficult to do, you need to avoid the authorities if you're illegal). I don't understand where this impression came from, far more natives sponge off the government than immigrants do. And would I be happy to see the native-spongers deported? Yes I would... preferably to the moon. Quote:
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I believe all humans are equal, and should all be entitled to get the best they can out of life, not that being born into a certain country automatically means you qualify to have a better life, no-one else is entitled to. Quote:
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Is this a debate about illegal immigration, or just immigration in general? Because immigration is an important part of the economy. Most immigrants are young (so less likely to require medical care), work several hours in low paid jobs, and pay a lot of taxes; most contribute more than they claim, for sure. |
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In my part of the country, French used to be the second language. Now spanish is being push on us. French has faded away.
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I think most everyone agrees that people should be allowed to move to another country/have the opportunity to better themselves. Which they are able to do, but there is a process. The editorial is a comment on the large amount of illegal immigration into the US and the strain it puts on the system as most of those that have illegally immigrated do not contribute anything past cheap labor and then use a good deal of US programs for themselves and their children.
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You have a point, AB, but........
Well, to take the author's point a bit further..... you BRING someone over to your house, ask them to work, keep a portion of the money they earned (it's called taxes, and unless they're working under the table, it's being taken out of their earnings.... and if they are illegals using fake IDs, they can't file for a refund), then get mad at them for not leaving. The problem is, there are jobs here that Americans aren't willing to do (as George Lopez said, Americans have a love/hate relationship with illegal immigrants.... they LOVE their salads, they HATE picking lettuce). And the people speaking the loudest are the ones that seem to be caught with the illegal housekeeper/nanny. And my problem is, no one is addressing the large number of Brits/Irish/other white people that overstay their visas; instead, this is a debate about BROWN illegal immigrants. (Besides, the Irish have, or at least had, a special set-aside of visas, pushed thru Congress by the powerful Irish-American contigent). But who is to blame? Where I am now, the minimum wage is $7.80 an hour, and people BITCH that it isn't enough. Hey, let's go back East, where you're getting $5.15 an hour to start, Buster Brown. How about getting off your lazy non-immigrant arse, and showing me that you're WORTH more than the exhoribant nearly $70 a day you squeeze out of me, and we'll talk.
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I pretty much agree with what Oz is saying... because this is an issue in high debate, people are losing sight of what the problems are.
It's easy to focus on one group of people and make several generalisations of them. That letter, I thought, made a very poor argument. Yes, immigrants (as well as natives) make use of various system in place (education, insurance, etc) but illegal as well as legal immigrants do that, so I'm failing to see the big difference here. In fact, it's the illegal immigrants that are less likely to try and claim benefits because they need to stay out of "the loop", as it were. I can't say for sure, but the attitude I got from the author of that letter was that, "I was born in the US, therefore I'm entitled to reap the benefits; you weren't born here, so why should you be claiming what rightfully belongs to us?" That's a bad attitude. The country you were born in does not and should not dictate what you can make of your life. That's why this analogy of the house pissed me off. You can build yourself a "nice" house through your own hard work and effort. The country you were born in is not your choice, so "my house is nicer than your house" - so what? What did you do to "earn" it? I'm not saying immigration is not an issue, but it does concern me the way many people speak of it at the moment. Once upon a time, it wasn't spoken about for fear of being considered "racist". Now there's somewhat of a backlash where people think it's okay to shout out loud their "issues", then tack on, "I'm just saying what you're all thinking, but can't because you'll be accused of being racist". Cue cheers, etc. The question is, why are these illegal immigrants choosing to not enter the country in the proper manner? A great deal of people seem to assume that because they aren't, that must mean they are only entering to sponge or otherwise laze around, and I don't believe that's really the case. I think there is a debate here, for sure, but I really can't agree that the author of that letter has made much of a point. |
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