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I won't debate this.........
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Please stick to the facts.
Opinion has no place in debate.
I agree. I despise that debating is glorified as a skill in society, especially among the youth. The purpose of debating shouldn't be to win, or otherwise convince someone of something. It should be to seek the truth of a given matter.

One person explains why he thinks something is a certain way. His argument is either flawed or it isn't. If it is, someone should expose the flaw using reason, at which point (faced with irrefutable logic), the original claimant should conform his viewpoint to the infallible truth. Ideally, the first person would be privy to the impairments in his own argument before proliferating it, at which point he would preemptively correct it making no debate even necessary.

Clubs where a student is assigned a position and required to debate another student (who was equally assigned the opposing view) are an affront to the perfect absolution of truth and what should otherwise be humanity's noble purpose of seeking it.
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I agree. I despise that debating is glorified as a skill in society, especially among the youth. The purpose of debating shouldn't be to win, or otherwise convince someone of something. It should be to seek the truth of a given matter.

One person explains why he thinks something is a certain way. His argument is either flawed or it isn't. If it is, someone should expose the flaw using reason, at which point (faced with irrefutable logic), the original claimant should conform his viewpoint to the infallible truth. Ideally, the first person would be privy to the impairments in his own argument before proliferating it, at which point he would preemptively correct it making no debate even necessary.

Clubs where a student is assigned a position and required to debate another student (who was equally assigned the opposing view) are an affront to the perfect absolution of truth and what should otherwise be humanity's noble purpose of seeking it.

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I agree. I despise that debating is glorified as a skill in society, especially among the youth. The purpose of debating shouldn't be to win, or otherwise convince someone of something. It should be to seek the truth of a given matter.

One person explains why he thinks something is a certain way. His argument is either flawed or it isn't. If it is, someone should expose the flaw using reason, at which point (faced with irrefutable logic), the original claimant should conform his viewpoint to the infallible truth. Ideally, the first person would be privy to the impairments in his own argument before proliferating it, at which point he would preemptively correct it making no debate even necessary.

Clubs where a student is assigned a position and required to debate another student (who was equally assigned the opposing view) are an affront to the perfect absolution of truth and what should otherwise be humanity's noble purpose of seeking it.
Every thought about running for office RK?
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Unread November 28th, 2008, 08:51 AM
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Every thought about running for office RK?
??? I wasn't bullshitting though. It's just my main complaint about the way people argue so insubstantially, most especially in politics. I would never want to be in public office.
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??? I wasn't bullshitting though. It's just my main complaint about the way people argue so insubstantially, most especially in politics. I would never want to be in public office.
I'm sure you enjoy your private office though.....
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I thought that this would be a fun thread and I still do. However, it was derailed after the second response because the rules were not followed. *cough*Omen*cough* Please re-read below and stick to the format if you care to participate.
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The format of this thread is for someone to suggest a topic for debate. The first post should make the case for and the second post should make the case against, and so on and so on. It doesn't matter how you personally feel about the topic. The purpose is to hopefully get you to see other points of view other than your own.
That being said, it was pointed out to me that the original scenario posed was sexist, which admittedly it was. So let's flip the script and ask the question:

What, if anything, should Guy Ritchie be entitled to at the dissolution of his marriage to Madonna?

1. For.... 2. Against.... 3. For.... 4. Against....
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I'll start it off.

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